An honor to interview the novelist Benjamín Labatut about Von Neumann, his conversations with Demis, and what the AI industry misses — "Literature tries to weave the rainbow back together. It involves irrationality; it involves all of those things that science has, by its own method, left out. Literature presents a messier, darker, and perhaps more complete, if less powerful, perspective on the world." https://youtube.com/watch?v=C8rLRIhDS-Y&…